# Operator\_id when there's no operator

**URL:** <https://devforum.zoom.us/t/operator-id-when-theres-no-operator/49592>\
**Category:** API and Webhooks\
**Created:** [May 5, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/operator-id-when-theres-no-operator/49592 "2021-05-05T01:32:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![chrismurrph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/chrismurrph/32/21804_2.png) [@chrismurrph](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/chrismurrph)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/operator-id-when-theres-no-operator/49592/1 "2021-05-05T01:32:23Z")

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With Webhooks such as ‘meeting.created’ and ‘meeting.updated’ there is an `operator_id` in the payload. What is the value of this when the Meeting was created or changed via an API call? The reason I’m asking is that for example if it was some specific value for an API call originator we could use that to stop a change that we created coming back.

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**Author:** ![will.zoom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/will.zoom/32/14417_2.png) [@will.zoom](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/will.zoom)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/operator-id-when-theres-no-operator/49592/2 "2021-05-05T21:13:05Z")

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Hi @chrismurrph,

Good question. If an action was taken via API, the `operator_id` value will be that of the app owner—so, if this were an account-wide JWT app for instance, this would be the user id of the account owner.

Let me know if this helps to clarify!  
Will

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/zoomdeveloper/original/3X/6/1/614bdd549b610bbaa46ff934617683a02bdaa03c.png) [@system](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/operator-id-when-theres-no-operator/49592/3 "2021-06-05T07:13:09Z")

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