# Undocumented Meeting Type 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** API and Webhooks\ **Created:** [October 30, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463 "2019-10-30T17:33:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jimig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/jimig/32/1815_2.png) [@jimig](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/jimig)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/1 "2019-10-30T17:33:06Z")
I’ve just had the pleasure of spending 2 hours finding that there is an undocumented meeting type. ```auto { "event": "meeting.started", "payload": { "account_id": "SG7cyaTzRoqSEyRnb4Djeg", "object": { "duration": 0, "start_time": "2019-10-30T17:17:07Z", "timezone": "Europe/Sofia", "topic": "xxx", "id": "xxx", "type": 4, "uuid": "ZKLcMmZ5RYitkdDs/H6FGg==", "host_id": "_jneLUhhQTmF09bdksDaiQ" } } } ``` This is not documented anywhere as far as I can see: [https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/webhook-reference/meeting-events/meeting-created](https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/webhook-reference/meeting-events/meeting-created) It appears to be created from a PMI. What’s special about this type and how should we handle it compared to say an instant meeting? ---
**Author:** ![tommy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/tommy/32/72769_2.png) [@tommy](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/tommy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/2 "2019-10-30T19:32:27Z")
Hey @jimig, apologies for the time wasted. Yes type 4 is a meeting using your [personal meeting id](https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362843-What-is-Personal-Meeting-ID-PMI-and-Personal-Link-). You can only use type 4 meeting via the web portal or client. Type 4 is when an instant meeting or scheduled meeting is using the PMI (Personal Meeting ID). Here are the full list of meeting / webinar types: ```nohighlight 1 Instant Meeting 2 Scheduled Meeting 3 Recurring Meeting with no fixed time 4 Meeting using Personal Meeting ID 5 Webinar 6 Recurring Webinar with no fixed time 8 Recurring Meeting with fixed time 9 Recurring Webinar with fixed time ``` We will update our docs to make this more clear. Thanks, Tommy ---
**Author:** ![jimig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/jimig/32/1815_2.png) [@jimig](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/jimig)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/3 "2019-10-30T20:50:21Z")
> [@tommy](#): > > ```auto > 9 Recurring Webinar with fixed time > > ``` Thanks @tommy, appreciated! I have to ask, where is meeting type 7? ---
**Author:** ![tommy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/tommy/32/72769_2.png) [@tommy](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/tommy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/4 "2019-10-30T21:14:17Z")
Good question, Meeting type 7 is PAC Personal Audio Conference. Here are the details: > **[Getting Started with Personal Audio Conference](https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204517069-Getting-Started-with-Personal-Audio-Conference)** > > Overview > Personal Audio Conference (PAC) allows Pro, Business or Education account holders to host meetings through PSTN (phone dial-in) only. The PAC meeting ID is a predetermined 10 or 11-digit m... Updating with more details regarding `use_pmi` and meeting `type`: If a meeting is created with type 2 (scheduled), but with “use\_pmi” option set to true, the meeting.created webhook will show type as 2. However when the host starts the meeting, the meeting.started webhook will show meeting type as 4 (because the use\_pmi option was enabled). Thanks, Tommy ---
**Author:** ![zoom-test](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/zoom-test/32/2531_2.png) [@zoom-test](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/zoom-test)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/5 "2020-04-29T17:57:11Z")
@tommy This page could use an update then as it does not document meeting types 4 & 7 in the potential types for the recording.complete webhook response: > **[Recording Completed - Recording Events - Webhook Reference - API Reference](https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/webhook-reference/recording-events/recording-completed)** > > Recording Completed > > > > All users with a Pro or a higher plan have access to Cloud Recordings. An account owner or account admin can enable Cloud Record... I can confirm we get all 9 types coming through our app and that webhook. ---
**Author:** ![tommy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/tommy/32/72769_2.png) [@tommy](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/tommy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/6 "2020-05-04T22:56:40Z")
Thanks @zoom-test, for bringing this up. @shrijana.g, can you please update this doc with the respective meeting types as mentioned above. Thanks, Tommy ---
**Author:** ![shrijana.g](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/shrijana.g/32/605_2.png) [@shrijana.g](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/shrijana.g)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/7 "2020-05-05T17:57:25Z")
@tommy Thanks for letting me know! Added. ---
**Author:** ![DeveloperBot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/devforum.zoom.us/developerbot/32/12632_2.png) [@DeveloperBot](https://devforum.zoom.us/u/DeveloperBot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://devforum.zoom.us/t/undocumented-meeting-type-4/6463/8 "2020-08-21T21:03:22Z")
Closed on August 21, 2020, 9:03pm UTC